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Opinions, the Manu Smriti, etc. August 9, 2008

Posted by K in Gender, Politics, Recent reads-and my comments, Reviews/Rants.
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What a pity we are all entitled to our own opinions.

(It is. Really. Because it then means that it is okay for a person to hold discriminatory opinions. It is okay to believe that a joke which goes like-there are three problems in the world, email, gmail and female-is funny. That believeing the Manu Smriti doesn’t spew venom against Shudras is ok.<–I was challenged to read the Manu Smriti and find out for myself whether the quotes used by Dalit Rights activists do actually figure in the ‘seminal’ text. I did; last night. I read 44 of the 274 pages, and then used the search feature to read every-tenet?- pertaining to Shudras. I will attach the link*, and the specific points that merit special reading, especially for those who still believe that the likes of Dr. Ambedkar were fools, and ranting out of context.)

(Somethings are just wrong. I won’t spend any energy trying to ‘compromise’/see the other side.)

*http://www.esnips.com/doc/133237a9-b9bd-4823-b37e-9555e3d0f707/Manu-Smriti—Sanskrit-Text-with-English-Translation

Leave a comment if you want me to mail you the particularly obnoxious-article?-numbers.

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1. aa - August 9, 2008

email is a problem?

2. ish - August 9, 2008

Can you e-mail the article numbers please?

3. sporadicblogger - August 10, 2008

aa- What?

ish-Mailed.

4. anonymouse - August 10, 2008

What a pity we are all entitled to our own opinions.

Imagine a world where we are not entitled to our own opinions. A world where freedom of thought is constrained.

A world of invisible chains, chains of the mind, which bind thought itself.

Imagine a world where freedom is merely the right to live in chains, where there can be no successful attempt to break out of those.

Now read Orwell again. If you don’t have 1984 and Animal Farm on hand, borrow mine.

5. sporadicblogger - August 10, 2008

anonymouse- yes, yes, I know. But freedom of thought also means freedom of obnoxious thoughts.

I know, the question then becomes, who defines ‘obnoxious’. And while I consider forms of gender discrimination, sexist jokes, the manu smriti, amongst others, obnoxious, what is to say mine is the right opinion. The thing to do is garner truth value for my opinion etc etc. but it still sucks when such obnoxious thoughts/opinions get in the way of those trying to create change.

6. anonymouse - August 10, 2008

The thing to do is to live by your principles (and it is difficult).

Don’t try to create change, that doesn’t work very well. Just live by your principles, and be the change.

But then again, that’s just my opinion.

7. sporadicblogger - August 10, 2008

Being the change is important indeed. But I think it is also important to not be a bye-stander(sp??) when shit happens around you…

…or maybe that is covered by ‘living by your principles’ 🙂

8. anonymouse - August 11, 2008

It _is_ covered by that, and not being a by-stander is hard. Even harder is trying to convince people about the benefits of an abstract concept, like say, freedom. Or the right to read.

9. aa - August 11, 2008

YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

FITE FOR WATS RITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ON THE INTERNET ON A BLOG VISITED BY ROUGHLY FIVE PEOPLE A YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U GUYZ R HEROES!

10. sporadicblogger - August 11, 2008

anonymouse- Hm. I’ll have to think about that one…abstract concepts and in what circumstances they become easy or difficult to relate to.

11. yaamyn - August 15, 2008

I thought.

And I thought.

And I thought a lot.

And it all finally boils down to this.

The biggest fault with a democratic (or any other gossip-ridden) society is this there are just too many ‘opinions’ ands ‘points of views’ adding to (subtracting from?) the result.

Too many mouths and not enough brains. Ignorance is NOT a point of view!

12. yaamyn - August 15, 2008

P.S. –

Methinks aa is weird.

13. yaamyn - August 15, 2008

P.S. –

Methinks aa is weird.

Mail me those article numbers too? :p

14. anonymouse - August 18, 2008

Democracy is the worst of all systems possible, except for all the rest.

15. sporadicblogger - August 18, 2008

Yaamyn-Sorry for the late reply! Yep, will mail it to you.

anonymouse- Just wondering…would you consider shifting the comma and making it ‘except,possibly, for all the rest’? 🙂

16. anonymouse - August 19, 2008

I did. I will not. (Though if you make me the tyrant, I will consider the one man, one vote system. I shall be the one man, and I will have one vote).


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